to put off the table the debt ceiling because they don't want to accuse of causing a debt default. they postpone it. they're going to continue the current levels so they're not going to be accused of shutting down the government. >> by the way, is that going to go on for three months or actually put it off for a year or two? >> they're going to do it every three months and every three months postpone it so that you know, the democrats on a short leash. i don't think they're going to try to default and nobody wants that. but they think that the democrats had all the leverage in fiscal cliff because of taxes. i think this time around it's the spending cuts automatic and they want to play hardball and there will be a game of chicken. we'll see which side blinks. >> what's your sense on employment? what's your projection in terms of where we are on the unemployment picture 12 months out? >> i think there will be a slow reduction of the employment rate because we're going to create something between 150,000 and 200,000 jobs essentially per month. >> that's going to be consistent? >> ups